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Well, yes, he should be outed

Despite his administration’s vow to launch “no more open-ended conflicts”, Trump has summoned an aircraft carrier to the Caribbean Sea and is already sending military helicopters provocatively near the Venezuelan coast. The Trump administration denies that its goal is regime change, but that certainly seems to be the purpose, as some officials privately concede. Ousting Venezuela’s autocratic leader, Nicolás Maduro, has long been a goal of Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state.

Getting rid of the bastard that has impoverished a nation seems like a good idea. No?

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Agammamon
Agammamon
23 hours ago

The Venezuelans can do that. We don’t need to.

All they need to do is pick up a rock. They don’t even need the rock – they have more fists than Maduro has people to fire bullets.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
23 hours ago
Reply to  Agammamon

The consensus in the UK seems to be you’d be better off without Starmer & the Labour Party Comedy Circus. You going to do anything about it? No. You’ll keep grovelling at his feet.

Norman
Norman
20 hours ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Could say similar about Spain, BiS.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
18 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

I think they’re reaching the end of their tether here. We’ve had quite a lot of people on the streets & rioting of late. Be interesting to see what happens. They’ve already had one civil war to get rid of the socialist blight. And the Spanish do own a lot of guns. I can buy a handgun here with an easy to obtain permit. I was practicing with my mate’s one a while back. Keeping my eye in. I haven’t done it, but I think you can just walk in & buy ammunition for it from the gun shop. Like buying a pack of fags. But 9mm. And the shop’s only 15 minutes walk away. Shame the one opposite me closed. I rather liked their display.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
15 hours ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Well yes, but we did elect him and know that we’ll get a chance to throw him out like we did the Tories.

Not quite the same as Venezuela.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
12 hours ago

You seem very sure about that…

Ottokring
Ottokring
22 hours ago

The Chavez/Maduo regime has impoverished the middle classes. It is a bit like Cuba, there’s no point in the poor rising up, because it won’t do them any good, their lives will not improve.

Grist
Grist
21 hours ago

It’ll be interesting to see how much of the shit the Starmer Crooks ‘n Clowns Show can shovel on to the English before something happens. I think Blair and his other masters are waiting to see how it turns out.

JuliaM
20 hours ago
Reply to  Grist

Let’s hope it turns out like it did for Cea..cheau… that Eastern European dictator and his missus!

dearieme
dearieme
19 hours ago
Reply to  JuliaM

We’re half way there. TTK has his Securitate where we used to have bobbies.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
16 hours ago
Reply to  dearieme

The Romanians got rid of the Securitate by hunting them down & killing them. Or at least enough of them that the remainder discovered they weren’t Securitate after all. Oh no!

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
18 hours ago
Reply to  Grist

But it’s not just Starmer, is it? The entire civil service, the public sector & a fair bit of the private sector are permeated with the same sort people. It’s going to take more than democracy to shift them. Why I keep saying you have to look at the extra-democratic as well as the democratic or electing a Reform government will be futile. They’ll be powerless to change anything.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
17 hours ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

You’ve already been there, haven’t you? The newly elected majority Reform councilors said they didn’t want the Pride flag flying over the town hall for Pride events. The council Chief Exec said she’d refuse the instruction & fly it. What power do democratically elected representatives have? I’m not sure even if they could fire her. If they did, no doubt her contract would mean they were still paying her wages or equivalent as severance. How do you make public officials do what you want them to if they don’t want to? You expecting help from the judiciary?

Gamecock
Gamecock
18 hours ago

Despite his administration’s vow to launch “no more open-ended conflicts”

US vs Venezuela? Open ended?

Cute.

Steve
Steve
16 hours ago

Trump’s saber-rattling in Venezuela is illegal
Kenneth Roth

Call the police then, dickhead.

Bloke in Callao
Bloke in Callao
14 hours ago

…The bastard that has impoverished a nation..

Yes, and bought politicians and interfered in elections all over the region as well. Not to mention the waves of Veneco criminals infesting this one. It’s his countrymen’s task to get rid of the bastard for sure, but a little bit of help would be welcome.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
11 hours ago

I actually bothered to read the Graun article. Couple things. It talks about cocaine smuggling out of VZ. VZ doesn’t grow coca. Wrong sort of place. The coca’s coming across the border from CO or by various routes from Bolivia. So there’s a big question how much Maduro complicit or at least blind eyeing the traffic. And there’s also the matter of what’s basically piracy. Vessels in the Caribbean being forcibly boarded, often the people on them murdered & them subsequently being used for trafficking. Some of these boats being US registered. And the suspicion the people doing this are out of VZ. Again whether Muduro is complicit or blind eyeing.
US ships in the area are in international waters & providing they don’t enter VZ waters they’re doing nothing illegal. They’ve as much right to intercept craft suspected of drug running or to establish the provenance of the vessel as anywhere else in the Caribbean. So it’s all about what the US might do with damn all evidence to back it up & nothing about what the US is actually doing. Usual Guardian daydreaming.

Gamecock
Gamecock
8 hours ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

I don’t know about that. US has no jurisdiction in the open oceans. No more than in Delhi.

Ottokring
Ottokring
11 hours ago

The excuse the US needs is an invasion of Guyana.

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