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Don’t hold back.
And listen to previous editions, so you know how to take them on.
Before watching BBC 2 at 9.00.
See what I did there? I gave a little bit of information that is of very little value. From what I have written you don’t know what’s on BBC 2.
From what you have written we don’t know who is on The Moral Maze or what they are likely to be discussing,
What’s the topic?
I hope it’s about Elynomics and Green New Deals – I’m not switching on for anything else.
The blurb for this week’s episode reads:
“Combative, provocative and engaging debate chaired by Michael Buerk. With Ella Whelan, Giles Fraser, Matthew Taylor and Melanie Philips.”
No mention of our host, unless it’s a late change.
That’s the panel. Fast Fashion. The other witness is on about how it’s terrible. Me, not so much.
Give sanctimonious Giles Fraser a good thrashing
Don’t mention Jews/Israel as it will trigger Melanie
ooh not just fashion. Shocking how awful home made fancy dress costumes often were. Even when people knew how to sew.(yes part of the fun but still. They were crap) And from a feminist perspective its great. The monetisation of mummy things has freed up the mummies of the world to stay a couple of hours later in the office to tilt the balance their way for that promotion. No more the awful choice of feeling guilty that your kid gets the dressing gown and a pair of tights on their head, or slaving for hours to get the stitching just so to outdo Betty Turkington’s mum.
I’m guessing this report will come up
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmenvaud/1952/report-summary.html
Can’t help noticing the conflation of fast fashion and buying basic clothes at a low price.
We throw away 1m tonnes of garments every year, of which 70%+ does not end up in landfill or incinerators, but Mary Creagh doesn’t care to tell us where the vast majority does go, or that this sort of rate is way higher than almost any other industry.
And study which took UK data from 2010 and compared it to later studies of 6 other European countries using different methodologies, is now being abused to claim that the UK consumes more textiles than any other country in Europe.
The UK report included carpet, bed linen and towels in our high numbers for consumption of textiles. The ” overwhelming reason the public gives for getting rid of clothes is lack of space “. Which EU country has the smallest houses? And the most restrictive planning system? Mmmm, tough one that. Another reason to rip up the NPPF, which I think Tom has advocated for more years than I’ve had a mouse.
Is it anything like The Crystal Maze? Hopefully there’s a timer and some styrofoam tiki idols to move around.
I throw away clothes because they’ve been used as painting&decorating wear, dusters, floor cloths, finally as bin wipes, and have finally fallen apart.
What’s the BBC? Is that like the wireless that Churchill used to broadcast from during the war?
That they’re even discussing the subject is highly immoral. The correct response to any intellectual spouting an opinion is MYOFB.
@Bongo July 8, 2019 at 8:58 pm
@jgh July 8, 2019 at 11:14 pm
+1
“The UK report included carpet, bed linen and towels in our high numbers for consumption of textiles.”
Informative, thanks – link?
T-shirts (inc ripped/holed) donated to… Cut up and sold to garages etc as rags. Nylon, Polyester useless for that, burn/bury.
Denim (inc ripped/holed) donated to… Becomes mattress stuffing
Cheap clothing is Good; imagine a world where replace is cheaper than wash, dry & iron – wonderful. Mary Creagh is another miserabilist who wants to stop others being happy.
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@bis
Yes. My money, my choice. Creagh, You may be pious, don’t insist I am too. MYOB
@Pcar
http://randd.defra.gov.uk/Document.aspx?Document=EV0421_8745_FRP.pdf
All the reports on why the UK is bad for textile recycling seem to link back to the above Bartlett et al report. You might know better being a forensic sort of gentleman.
Listening now… Well, shouting at the radio is a better description…
“When Britain industrialised, it was the richest country in the world!”
No it wasn’t, it was unequivably Spain. Britain became the richest country in the world in the 19th century *by* industrialising past the empire resource renting of Spain.
“Sweatshop workers should be paid a living wage!”
They *are* and more so! 35p an hour is low-level civil service for Bangladesh.
Score one for TW – given the panel’s concluding remarks, your resolute defence of capitalism appeared to have won their respect.
@jgh
Was TW allowed to speak?
Episode:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006lsp
Podcast soon: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qk11/episodes/downloads
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@Bongo
Thanks
It was worth it. “There is nothing unsustainable about landfill.” Tumbleweeds.
It’s just a shame you didn’t have more worthy opponents.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0006lsp
11 minutes in btw