Plans to overhaul Britain’s energy market being studied by Ed Miliband would prompt a surge in the number of wind farms in the South of England, officials have confirmed.
Fintan Slye, the chief executive of the National Energy System Operator (Neso), said breaking the electricity market into regions under so-called zonal pricing would encourage developers to put turbines up in the South.
He backed the idea and said the current system of setting wholesale power prices nationally was giving renewable developers the wrong “price signals” over where to locate wind farms.
Vast, land hungry, industry to be located on most expensive land in the country.
Well done there that man, vry well done.
If they’re going to charge regional or zonal pricing for electricity this means that hospitals will be paying different amounts and those in the more expensive areas will be able to perform relatively fewer procedures.
The left has a pejorative term for this: postcode lottery.
I look forward to these 2nd order effects coming to light and watching the left squim.
Vast, wind dependent machines located in regions where wind conditions are comparatively poor, so operating costs are higher. Grid losses over the 400 miles from Aberdeen to London should be 10-15%, so if the wind difference is more than that it’s going to be more expensive.
Andyf,
That would be a problem if it was about cheaper electricity, but this is just about persuading those virtue signalling middle classes who like the idea of green energy to accept some bird choppers in their back yards.
Handy to have the nationalised NESO agree to the crazy government plans. Fintan Slye sounds just like the sort of weasel who should be against the wall when the revolution comes.
“the wrong ‘price signals'”
Of course they are comrade. No doubt created by counter revolutionary wreckers like … a previous government.
I find it hard to believe that Fintan Slye hasn’t escaped from a Harry Potter novel.
I had a look at Spud’s website the other day. One of his commenters stated that for £1500 each household could have their own wind turbine, solar panel and battery and be self sufficient in energy.
I am starting to think that there are people who have a childhood and then dementia in an old peoples home. They never have an adulthood.
Five seconds searching produced this: “The costs of home wind turbines vary from £7,000 to £70,000, with the possibility of saving £641 per year. ”
Green economics in a nutshell, you can “save” pennies by spending tens of thousands as long as you don’t want power 24/7.
“being studied by Ed Miliband”
He should study an ice pick.
“The costs of home wind turbines vary from £7,000 to £70,000, with the possibility of saving £641 per year. ”
That really is an amazing statement. Savings down to the single £ without providing any range and wind turbine installation with a range of 10x… So in one case they are using a range and in the other an average – as always without realising that averages are made up of some numbers that are below and some that are above the average
even taking it a face value:
– 70k to save 641 per year -> 110 year undiscounted pay-back term -> great!
– 7k to save 641 per year -> 11 year undiscounted pay-back term -> now you may be moving into the territory of something that vaguely makes sense (But of course you won’t save 641 per year if you spend 7k)
Yeah, it’s just something I pulled out of search results. But obviously Spud’s commenters didn’t do the 5 second search as there’s no way that £1500 can be correct for a fully installed system with battery backup.
Whatever, but “Fintan Slye” sounds as if he comes from one of those old novels where the name defines the character.
Except… windmill companies are not taking up contracts due to increased costs, lack of availability of resources – labour, manufacturing, transportation – and Contract for Difference strike prices being too low.
They also have seen what’s happening in the US with Trump and eyeing a possible ant-Net Zero Reform UK Government in a few years time.
One of Reform’s policies is (or was, it is well within their change cycle) is if you can’t break the renewables’ contracts to tax them up the wazoo. That seems like a credible deterrent to building any more.
“Up the wazoo”. See, I can bandy economic jargon like a pro.
They need something else up the wazoo as well as a tax demand!
TG, they probably already get it, and like it.
The new system will *allegedly* cut prices outside the south-east by £57.4bn and increase them in the south-east by £3.6bn.
I thought “Harry Potter” was supposed to be fiction
Yeah, it’s just something I pulled out of search results. But obviously Spud’s commenters didn’t do the 5 second search as there’s no way that £1500 can be correct for a fully installed system with battery backup.
That’s for something you’d put on a mid sized yacht to keep the house batteries charged.
https://www.marinesuperstore.com/batteries-power-chargers/wind-generator/silentwind-wind-generator
And note the lengths they go to to minimise noise. Imagine every house in a street have a wind generator whining away.
Imagine every house in a street have a wind generator whining away.
Or an ASHP.