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On his phone, police found messages that showed he had reached an agreement with Voloshyn. According to prosecutors, Gill accepted cash on at least eight occasions to make specific statements and opinions benefiting Russia.

The amount has yet to be disclosed, but various amounts totalling in excess of at least £10,000 were mentioned in WhatApp messages between him and Voloshyn.

For £10k? Why bother? Sure, sure, everyone has their price. But be expensive at least.

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Van_Patten
Van_Patten
3 hours ago

Think how much funding also the Guardian and probably the journalists getting this scoop get from Hamas and ISIS, both of which pose a far greater threat than Putin. Even worse a lot of the Green and Raisin party members give their loyalty to these enemies for free – much less than 10K. Anyone who has been on a pro Palestinian demonstration is a far greater threat and needs to be in the dock ahead of Gill.

Marius
Marius
2 hours ago

Pissy little amounts for sure. I bet Tucker’s getting loads more.

Now can we have a look at the affairs of all those politicians and civil servants who promote the interests of the CCP?

Or will we just carry on screaming about Nigel and his ‘links’ to Russia?

Last edited 2 hours ago by Marius
Van_Patten
Van_Patten
2 hours ago
Reply to  Marius

Absolutely agree- and their links are even broader than ISIS et al.

Grist
Grist
2 hours ago
Reply to  Marius

The sole thing I think thant TTK has done that has any merit (for him) is his working for China and keeping the media quiet so that no one breathes a word about how obvious it is. Mauritius, the embassy and the trips…

Paul, Somerset
Paul, Somerset
41 minutes ago
Reply to  Grist

This is why I think he will stay in Number Ten just long enough to see the Chagos surrender irrevocably across the line. Once the taxpayer billions are available for distribution among those who brokered this ‘deal’, he will have no further interest in being Prime Minister.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
2 hours ago

Small beer indeed:

Police in Belgium have released pictures showing suitcases full of money allegedly used to bribe politicians in one of the biggest corruption scandals to ever hit the European Parliament (EP).

The Belgian Federal Police raided numerous buildings in Brussels, including parliament offices and 19 homes, discovering around 1.5m euros (£1.29m), some of it stashed in a suitcase in a hotel room.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/suitcases-stuffed-cash-seized-police-investigating-qatar-bribery-european-politicians-155818532.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAB7NI8hOOunAKTyDMu0DUfIAj3NW8GpxFrIt–DjVcrJC9EaB2KC3HbOXMkmLlzBdim_d7FBr8VkguxXkWTK7HjXPstFd8eGjumymU-3VUU8mOSquI8Z0TTschajfW5GERpx2WFXG_s3aWnJNgH-t2Q6ne0c0-bfkl-_8yfscZri

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 hour ago

Oh we’re back to the suitcases of money are we? Journalists do love them, don’t they? €1.5m. One small carry on. 19 locations so a few wads scattered about

M
M
36 minutes ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

That’s still a fair bit of cash. 1.5 mil divided by 19 is still more than 100k in the average stash. Though the 19 figure may just be the homes and the offices are extra.

Would it be more worth your time if they found a shipping container full in one of the hotel rooms?
Oh wait. It wouldn’t fit.

Bribes aren’t large in general if you don’t think these are large.

Yes, it’s possible to fit a lot of cash in a small space. That’s its function.

Last edited 35 minutes ago by M
bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 hours ago

Something I find fascination is how many people get in do-do for stuff on their phones. I’m a regular Whatsap user. It’s ubiquitous here & it helps with translation when you’re conversing in several languages. But I routinely delete anything I wouldn’t want someone else to see. Addresses & GoogleMap locations, anything with money, 90% of images & video, any strictly private or sensitive conversations. Mostly they get deleted as soon as the information has been used. For a start it saves memory. But also, I can get into almost any phone – password protected or not. So I presume others can. Yes, I know deleting doesn’t get rid of the data. You could still get it off the drive if you’ve the tools. But in due course it’ll get overwritten. Especially if the phone memory’s fairly full. If you wanted to be sure of that, transfer a few gigs of music or video to the drive & then delete it.
How can people be this stupid?

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
1 hour ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Overwriting might not truly remove any traces of your old data. If the drive detects a bad sector while it’s in use and remaps it, your old data might still be present on the disk and overwriting will not hit the remapped sector. SSDs perform wear levelling (basically, if you rewrite a file, it will be written to a different physical part of the drive to avoid hot spots that wear out faster) with similar problems for overwriting. Even shredding the disk platters doesn’t stop someone determined enough (the NSA standard is particles less than 2mm²).

It all depends how interested someone is in what you had stored, and how much they are prepared to spend to retrieve it.

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
47 minutes ago

I suspect these people see being bribed as having “arrived”. The amounts don’t really matter. In their heads they’re important people and it bolsters that delusion..

M
M
25 minutes ago

Well, apparently they are worth being bribed if someone is bribing them.

It’s possible that someone scatters cash around to everyone positively incline people towards them. Preparing the ground as it were.

That there’s a public scandal around bribery seems to show that this strategy still has some danger around it.

No doubt this is due to the clash of cultures. There are people who come from a culture where bribery is universal and required to do business. If there’s a bribery scandal there, it’s actually someone at the top working to eliminate rivals, and this shows better for Western media than just going out and garroting them.

They’re coming to a culture where, at least for now and after centuries of effort, we had managed to make bribery something that isn’t done.

“What percentage of excrement should be in your punch bowl?” should be the question posed to anyone who thinks a little bribery isn’t something to worry about. It’s corrosive.

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