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Ideology and propaganda, eh?

The whole section on Europe is steeped in decades of European far-right ideology and propaganda. The EU and migration policies are held responsible for “transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of free speech and suppression of political opposition, cratering birthrates, and loss of national identities and self-confidence”. According to the document, if “present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognisable in 20 years or less. As such, it is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies”. Indeed, the Trump administration believes that “within a few decades at the latest, certain Nato members will become majority non-European”.

As ever with anything said the first test is “Is it true?”

And if it is true then what?

After all, varied lefties have been gleefully predicting that the US is about to become non-majority white for decades now. We can imagine the same thing about certain European entities too. Like, say, London.

Well, OK. So the thing to be discussing is is this true, do we want it to be true and if not what then? Rather than shouting at the messenger….

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Grist
Grist
1 month ago

Only a few select areas of London bear a resemblance to the London I knew as a child.Visiting sons who live further inside the rotting donut is astonishing.

Marius
Marius
1 month ago
Reply to  Grist

I was living in London 15 years or so ago and the change between then and now is quite dramatic. The contrast for anyone who grew up there must be astonishing.

Jonathan
Jonathan
1 month ago
Reply to  Marius

There’s a reason for that:

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Jonathan
Jonathan
1 month ago

The whole of left-wing ideology relies on the denial of reality.

rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 month ago

Is there a rebutal? It’s obviously true, but ‘Trump says it so it’s BAD’ isn’t really the end of the matter.

dearieme
dearieme
1 month ago

It doesn’t matter whether we want it to be true. We won’t have the balls to stop it becoming true.

Why do people vote for Trump? Because they think/hope he has balls. And because he’s not a demented old vegetable or a drunken witch, of course.

I like this joke: Trump is the first man since FDR to win three presidential elections.

Grist
Grist
1 month ago

When I’ve said before that I can’t understand the strange alliance of the Left and Islam, it was pointed out to me that it wasn’t that strange because they both hate Western civilisation. This bows to the Arab saying “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” which has a certain logic to it. But it does ignore the fact that if, after the enemy is defeated, you hope to still remain friends, you have to not have a fundemental hatred of each other. And to quote a show dear to the hearts of our Lefties, “Have I got New for You”…

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  Grist

They’re both collectivists in favour of totalitarianism, so there is that. And then for dickless white Western lefties, these poor, exotic brown people in their Lawrence of Arabia clothing are so oppressed and downtrodden. Who couldn’t love them? What perfect objects to abase oneself before, in penance at white privilege?

I saw a stupid old woman get on the bus yesterday. Typical retired public sector in crusty clothing. Keffiyeh. XR membership card in her phone wallet. Rucksack with Free Palestine written across the back. She got out on the Holloway Rd. at the Nags Head, no doubt to waddle down to some “community resource” place or the North London Poly to take part in some collective fucking god knows what.

Silly deluded cow. Theres no fool like an old fool.

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bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

In case you don’t see it on the other thread, Norm:A True History of Crouch End
Enjoy!

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

Every word true, BiS.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago
Reply to  Norman

Be nice to know where she boarded the bus, Norm? Hampstead Garden Suburb?

Norman
Norman
1 month ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

The 91 on the Islington side of Crouch End Hill.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 month ago

What strange times. The “far-right racists” crept out of the woodwork, looked around & realised that far from being a despised minority they were actually more than 50% of the public

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Interested
Interested
1 month ago

They publish this balls even as the pubs are awash with tales of young girls being abducted and raped in public parks by ‘migrants’ a few weeks off the boat, and ‘grinning Iraqi asylum seekers’ giving women the thumbs up before sexually attacking them on trains?

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for them.

Bloke In Scotland
Bloke In Scotland
1 month ago

Not sure you can claim migration causes a cratering birth rate, maybe “because of” instead

Steve
Steve
1 month ago

Modern leftism:

While the document remains vague about how it will achieve this, it is clear that a priority of the Trump administration is to put pressure on Europe to adopt a radical policy around freedom of speech, closer to that which prevails in the US – again, particularly towards far-right speech – and not just on social media. Another is to normalise Russia; or, as the document calls it, to “reestablish strategic stability with Russia”. Although the country is not explicitly called a future ally, the Trump administration clearly does not treat Russia as an adversary either.

*Free speech is ‘far right’
* You must live in poverty and filth surrounded by ugly, grabby foreigners who hate you
* Free sex changes for babies
* Permanent war with Eurasia

It’s amazing how few of these “people” are thrown out of helicopters.

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Interested
Interested
1 month ago

Talking of propaganda.

Blair deliberately opened the floodgates in 1997, as his adviser Andrew Neather later admitted.

See Hansard from 2015, and a speech by Andrew Turner MP:

Back in 1997, Tony Blair won a huge mandate from the people to govern our country, but he omitted to tell us about his absolute determination to introduce and pursue an aggressive immigration policy, designed to make the UK a multicultural society. Thanks to a certain Mr Andrew Neather, a former Government adviser, we now know the truth. More specifically, he said it was Blair’s intention to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”.

Here’s the Google AI version of the origin story of that phrase:

The phrase “rub the rights nose in diversity” is a political statement made by Nigel Farage in 2016, accusing New Labour of a deliberate policy to encourage immigration to challenge existing norms and “rub our noses in diversity”. This implies a view that such policies were implemented to confront and challenge the public, causing problems for working people. 

Origin: The phrase was used by Nigel Farage during a 2016 debate with Peter Mandelson concerning immigration.

Accusation: Farage accused the Labour party of implementing a deliberate policy of encouraging immigration, which he said was meant to “rub our noses in diversity”.

We have been asleep on the job – while we’ve been working and raising our kids, they have been training AI to lie to stupid people.

John
John
1 month ago

The name and the authors photo lend credence to the theory that the G is economising by using AI.

Grikath
Grikath
1 month ago

True? Maybe. Certainly a plausible risk, which as such should be noted.

Which it has been, hence the rise of the Evil Racist Populists the Progressives like to scream about.

Because if the statements were decidely untrue, there would be no need for all that, no?

Gamecock
Gamecock
1 month ago

Trump’s new national security strategy seeks to destroy liberal democracy as we know it

Dumbass. Labeling fascist/socialist/totalitarian EU ‘liberal democracy’ is too stupid to comment on.

Trump is trying to save Europe. He thinks a viable Europe is of value to the US. Gamecock isn’t convinced. Turds like Mudde make me think it’s not worth the effort.

Grikath
Grikath
1 month ago
Reply to  Gamecock

Oh… It’s “liberal democracy”…. By *their* definitions of “Liberal” and “Democracy”.

Neither of which actually are….

Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
1 month ago
Reply to  Grikath

True, think about how many Democratic Republics there are out there that neither.

jgh
jgh
1 month ago

Britian being so horrendously irredeemably racist, clearly there are no foreigners trying to get into this benighted country.

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 month ago
Reply to  jgh

Well!! Certainly the foreigners are racist.

ZT
ZT
1 month ago

Q: Which Muslim theocracy will be the first to have a permanent seat on the UN Security Council?
A: The Islamic Republic of Britain.

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