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Italy first country to win Unesco recognition for national cuisine

Italy is one of those places which doesn’t have a national cuisine. There is a series of highly distinct regional ones. And they really are distinct too.

So, an amusement then…..

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Ottokring
Ottokring
11 hours ago

In fact all countries with any size or heritage ascribe to that model.

A lot if ‘tasty’ food in Europe really only dates from the discovery of the New World in any case.

What did the ‘Italians’ eat before tomatoes and peppers ?

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
7 hours ago
Reply to  Ottokring

What did the ‘Italians’ eat before tomatoes and peppers ?
It is interesting. I have a book on medieval English cuisine. I’ve cooked some of the dishes. For a start the modern concept of a plate with meat & 2/3 veg didn’t exist.* Everything is separate dish eaten separately. And there’s little division between what we’d regard as savoury & sweet. So meat gets served sweetened with fruit & there’s a “dessert” of ground chicken breast, cream honey & spices closely resembles custard.

*I don’t think it existed anywhere before the late C19th. Is it some entirely Brit thing that spread? When I first came to Spain the “placa combinada” was mostly a tourist thing. In restaurants for the Spanish, if you asked for meat, you just got the meat.

Ottokring
Ottokring
7 hours ago
Reply to  bloke in spain

I think it is a Northern Europe and industrialisation thing. More energy required, often less time to eat it. So it all goes on one plate.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
6 hours ago
Reply to  Ottokring

I think it probably all would have gone on one plate. One of the factors is the expense of cooking utensils. If you can only afford one pot, everything gets cooked together.
In medieval cookery, pies & puddings are cooking utensils. You wrap the ingredients in dough, bake in the oven or wrap in cloth & boil in a cauldron. They’re then opened & the contents served. The pastry covering is discarded or thrown to the peasants.

Grikath
Grikath
1 hour ago
Reply to  Ottokring

Not really… It’s something that came into being when potatoes were introduced and replaced the then “standard” stews and porridges that had everything + dog ( sometimes literally ) tossed in and served in a bowl with bread.

Potatoes, especially the early varieties, aren’t suited for that style of cooking. so you end up with one plate, a stack of potatoes, and veggie “sides” in Season, with a slice of meat if you could afford it.
It’s only later, when they managed to breed the more starchy varieties that you got the mashes, but by that time it was the mash that got piled on your plate, topped with bone-broth gravy, next to the cooked-to-death veggies.
And meat on Sunday, if you were lucky.

Definitely not “more energy required”…. Even early “indutrialisation” was aimed at expending *less* effort to get things done.
There’s no better Fitness Regime than Working the Land. Manually…
Or loading/unloading/moving things… Manually…
Or….

Western Bloke
Western Bloke
10 minutes ago
Reply to  Ottokring

France has a huge variety of cuisines. Growing things in Normandy is a bit like growing things here, but Provence can do almost everything.

Grikath
Grikath
9 hours ago

I shall be sure to break the spaghetti before cooking it.

But as everything UN-related… Applause for devalueing another thing that *may* have had some actual use in protecting things that are actually worthwile to preserve.

Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
6 hours ago
Reply to  Grikath

Parkinson again. They have to keep finding ‘heritage’ crap to justify their existence.

Marius
Marius
9 hours ago

I bet it took years and millions in bribes for the UN to come to this conclusion.

Norman
Norman
8 hours ago

Last year I ran an event at Japan House celebrating the 10th anniversary of Washoku (Japanese cuisine) registration as UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage. Jap ambassador was there, an’ all.

So I think the wops have something wrong, here.

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
7 hours ago
Reply to  Norman

We used to enjoy going there for lunch as part of a monthly day out to try to educate our teenage son – gallery or museum in the morning, lunch and then a play in the afternoon.

Theophrastus
Theophrastus
7 hours ago

Did the education work?

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
7 hours ago
Reply to  Theophrastus

If you judge it by the fact he doesn’t go to many, galleries, museums or plays now, 25 years later, no. But then again that’s not the point, he was introduced to them and can make up his own mind afterwards.

TBF, he now lives in Blandford Forum so there aren’t as many opportunities as when we lived in the Chilterns.

Bloke in South Dorset
Bloke in South Dorset
4 hours ago

“aren’t as many” opportunities for culture in Blandford? Are there any, once you’ve strolled around looking at the architecture?

I used to go there three times a year for my haircut (sadly Mary, the Glaswegian barber who gave you a tin of beer if you had to wait, did a midnight flit), and I’m told it’s where the small dealers get their drugs wholesale. But is there any other reason for going?

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 hours ago

Open letter to Trump:

“You can defund UN now.”

Yours truly,

Gamecock

Gamecock
Gamecock
6 hours ago

This is on par with winning “Yard of the month.”

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