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Roger Waters has re-recorded Dark Side of the Moon.

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Arthur the cat
Arthur the cat
2 years ago

50 years, I presume. God, I’m getting old. I can remember exactly when and where I bought it the day it came out.

Bloke from Hungary
Bloke from Hungary
2 years ago

Master recording rights are 50 years after it’s made and 70 years after being released. presumably you’d re-master it and gain the same protection so your estate would still earn royalties.

However, he’s re-corded it on his own so no other member of Pink Floyd or their estates will get a penny of this version so I think there’s a hint of bitterness from Roger Waters.

Ducky McDuckface
Ducky McDuckface
2 years ago

Yeah, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/copyright-notice-duration-of-copyright-term/copyright-notice-duration-of-copyright-term

Released ’73, so currently bang on 50 years ago. 70 years takes Waters to 2043. He’s 79 now, apparently got three kids. Presumably, when the pig buys the farm, royalties will flow to them for the next 70 years via the estate.

(Related, always been curious about why Brian Herbert spunked the product of his diseased imagination onto paper when he did. IIRC, it was around the time when the extension from 50 years from the creator’s death to 70 was being debated, with the complication of whatever the US was going do. And there’s derivative works as well.)

John
John
2 years ago

As presumably the original recording will never stop selling for as long as it remains available do all royalties and performing rights etc simply cease. Surely a re-recording which is substantially different will not attract royalties from the previous version.

Ltw
Ltw
2 years ago

I probably should listen to it to see if it sucks as badly as the original.

Nah, I’m old enough to assume it’s still crap and not waste my time.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
2 years ago

I wonder if Waters will allow his new recording to be sold in Israel? It will depend if his desire for cash outweighs his antisemitism. Revealed preferences in action!

Andrew again
Andrew again
2 years ago

Original vinyl version in local record shop… £90. I don’t think it will sell that well,

BlokeInTejasWithALinn
BlokeInTejasWithALinn
2 years ago

Aa

At 90 quid it’s probably a highfalutin high quality special pressing. An, quite possibly, worth the money if you have a nice gramophone thingy etc.

Mark in Mayenne
Mark in Mayenne
2 years ago

I dont think Floyd get any royalties any more from sales of Darkside. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember reading something to that effect, it’s a termm of the recording contract. At the time they thought no-one would be buying it 30 (?) years on. This could simply be an attempt to establish a pension he feels cheated out of.

Flubber
Flubber
2 years ago

It will depend if his desire for cash outweighs his antisemitism.

Yes its all his fault the IDF are a bunch of murderous thugs

Bloke in North Dorset
Bloke in North Dorset
2 years ago

I prefer Meddle and Wish You Were Here.

PJF
PJF
2 years ago

Yes its all his fault the IDF are a bunch of murderous thugs

It’s partly his fault that so many fuck heads think so.

Tim the Coder
Tim the Coder
2 years ago

@BiND
Aye, especially Echoes. And Wish You Were here is ‘sit in the car on the driveway until it finishes’. But my preference is Division Bell and High Hopes. Waterless.
Unmatched Friday Evening music.

Southerner
Southerner
2 years ago

Pink Floyd pre Gilmour were quite frankly shite, with production values like it had been recorded underwater in a public toilet. A lot of their stuff with Gilmour was shite too, but well-made shite.

dearieme
dearieme
2 years ago

At least he gave pendants the opportunity to point out that the moon doesn’t have a dark side.

Tim the Coder
Tim the Coder
2 years ago

@dearieme
Those pendants missing the point. It isn’t astronomical, it’s about madness.
cv Barrett,Sid

NB Iron Sky makes the same mistake, but with less excuse. Though it is a comedy.

TDK
TDK
2 years ago

The whole PF catalogue has been remastered and reissued often in extended versions over the past 20 years.

There was a row between Gilmour and Waters over the sleeve notes the latter wanted attached to Animals delaying that release by several years.

Interestingly the band have been (re)issuing their own live bootlegs in limited editions. They were available only online and deleted soon after. I assume this is to prevent bootleggers issuing “legal” versions. Us it or lose it I guess.

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