Orkney considering becoming part of Norway
If Brexit is valid – the idea of asking people what they’d like to do that is – then so is Scots Indy. And also Orkney indy.
That’s just basic logic.
Now, when Bath gets to vote independence from Twerton, that’s when you’ll really see the landslide vote.
Question is: Should the English consider becoming Norwegian, if it gets them away from the Jocks & the Sheep-Shaggers & more importantly Westminster.
*Harald Hardråde has entered the chat.
I’ve long thought the way to deal with the SNP is to offer not one referendum for Scottish independence but five, one each for the Lowlands, Highlands and each island group, with the gas, oil, wind power and tidal power assets being divided geographically between them. The resulting income per capita would be phenomenal for the Orkneys and Shetlands (who would probably (re)join Norway), quite good for the Highlands and Hebrides, but the Lowlanders would get virtually nothing.
Yes please BiS.
Despite being self sufficient in renewable energy, Norway has just agreed leases for North Sea oil and gas drilling worth $18 Bn, demonstrating that their government is not completely full of retreads.
Do the Norwegians get a vote in this?
Sample referendum question: The people of Orkney are not satisfied with the subsidy they get from England’s 30 million-odd taxpayers and would like that fiscal responsibility transferred to Norways 3 million odd taxpayers. Fancy this?
Arthur – they are never going to allow us another referendum ever again unless they’re absolutely sure of the result this time.
We can’t currently exercise influence over our own government via *elections*, so we can forget about referenda for now.
Now do Italian-occupied South Tyrol.
Steve @ 11.03 “unless they’re absolutely sure of the result”.
You mean the UK gov are going to invest in Dominion Voting Machines…….?
I remember this Stockan character talking about this during the 2014 referendum campaign, so it doesn’t come as a surprise. Mind you, I get the impression he’s a bit obsessed. Dunno how popular the idea is among the general population. (He also mentions they’re looking into Crown Dependency. That would be their best bet, I think, should the Nats ever get their way. I can’t really see what they’d get from Norway other than expensive beer.)
Arthur the Cat: Nah. County by county. A Glaswegian city-state actually holds some appeal. It’d end up begging to the IMF within six months, but it would be hilarious to watch a city that can’t even organise public toilets any more try to operate a foreign trade policy.
(“It huz tae be Fair Trade!” “Oh, aye. Oabviously.” “An’ nae exports tae oil-producin’ countries!” “Goes withoot sayin’. Er. Except Scoatland, right?” “Ah. Well. Aye. Except Scoatland.” “An’ the Middle East. We cannae upset the towel… er, wur Muslim friends.” “Right. Phew. Dodged a bullet there, Boaby. Imagine the stramash in Pollokshields if we’d did that. We’d’ve hud tae call in the Army.” “Whit army?” “Wheesht. Nothin’ wi’ Russia, but.” “Oh, aye. Nothin’ wi’ Russia. Er. Dae we huv any trade wi’ Russia?”)
Bob:
I bet we could go right round the world and you’d have a pat response ready.
Terry Collier:
I’ve travelled, man, I’ve seen a bit of the world now you know.
Bob:
What do you think of Koreans, for instance?
Terry Collier:
Not to be trusted. Cruel people. Much the same as all Orientals.
Bob:
That’s a third of the world’s population dismissed in a phrase. Russians?
Terry Collier:
Sinister.
Bob:
Egyptians?
Terry Collier:
Cowardly.
Bob:
Oh? I thought you might have saved that for Italians.
Terry Collier:
No, no, they’re greasy aren’t they? Not as greasy as the French, mind.
Bob:
Germans?
Terry Collier:
Arrogant.
Bob:
Spaniards?
Terry Collier:
Lazy.
Bob:
Danes?
Terry Collier:
Pornographic.
Bob:
Well that’s just about everyone. Oh, Americans?
Terry Collier:
Well, they’re flash aren’t they?
Bob:
So it’s just down to the British, is it?
Terry Collier:
Well, I haven’t got much time for the Irish or the Welsh, and the Scots are worse than the Koreans.
Bob:
And you never could stand Southerners.
Terry Collier:
To tell you the truth I don’t like anybody much outside this town. And there’s a lot of families in our street I can’t stand either. Come to think of it, I don’t even like the people next door.
@Arthur: all the referendum need ask is “Do you want your constituency to secede from the UK?” If your ambition were to be independent not only from London but also from the EU, from NATO, and from bloody Glaswegians, that would be a reasonable place to start.