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This is cleansing’: Dublin sends in police and buses to dismantle tent city

Shocked people from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria herded on to coaches as 200 tents removed and streets cleaned

It is cleansing.

And?

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rhoda klapp
rhoda klapp
1 year ago

All the major Irish political parties find themselves on the wrong side of public opinion. The population really doesn’t like immigrant policy and is directly and adversely affected by it. Looks like the parties have painted themselves into a corner, but no, with one bound they are free. It’s all the fault of the UK, Britain and England, in that order.

Anoneumouse
1 year ago

The Removal of the Black and Tans continues

Boganboy
Boganboy
1 year ago

Yes Rhoda. The Irish’d love the UK to grovel and beg to pay them for the privilege of having all the asylum seekers in Ireland dumped on them.

After all, it seems to work that way with France.

Jonathan
Jonathan
1 year ago

Appeasing voters! The horror:

In an electoral cycle, appeasing voters anxious about migration trumps bilateral ties.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

“This is hypocrisy,” said Sami Kupiszewski, 50, an asylum seeker from Turkey,

A BLOO BLOO BLOO *sad foreign parasite noises*

Why are we or anybody else accepting “asylum seekers” from a NATO member country that’s also a luxury holiday destination, lol.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

Anoneumouse –

Fuck off, Ye Black and Tans
Fuck off back to Afghanistan
Show your goats how you won nothing down in Dublin

DocBud
DocBud
1 year ago

To be fair, Steve, Erdogan is a very nasty Islamist scumbag who persecutes his opponents. I don’t know why anyone would choose to visit the Muslim shithole just so they can sit around a swimming pool.

The German government’s latest report on global religious freedom covering the 2020-2022 period sheds light on human rights violations of non-Sunni groups and minorities in Turkey. The report also addresses the persecution faced by the Gülen movement, a group critical of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. According to the report, the Turkish state does not hesitate to kidnap Gülenists from abroad.

https://nordicmonitor.com/2024/04/german-government-report-highlights-erdogans-willingness-to-kidnap-opponents-from-abroad/

Martin Near The M25
Martin Near The M25
1 year ago

Humza Useless out and a huge (self created) mess for the Irish Government. It’s been a good week. Maybe we can get a tory wipeout to finish it off?

Bongo
Bongo
1 year ago

I don’t get the use of the term ‘asylum seeker’ by the media.
Whenever more detailed stories are given it seems that they were small boat immigrants – they then asked for protection and their application was looked at – 2 outcomes are typical after a wait
1. Approved – you are now a refugee
2. You are not entitled to asylum in the UK – you are not a refugee, and you are now a former asylum seeker surely. But what’s the most accurate term?

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

DocBud – To be fair, Steve, Erdogan is a very nasty Islamist scumbag who persecutes his opponent

Yeah, but to be fair, I don’t give a fuck.

Deport the lot of them.

jgh
jgh
1 year ago

But “refugee” is somebody given refuge, not given asylum. See the spelling of the word. If I was given refuge somewhere after asking for asylum, I’d be fumerously pissed off. A refuge is a temporary place of safety, for temporary occupation until it is safe to move on. A pedestrian refuge in a road is not a permant place of location; a fire refuge in a building is not a permanant place of location; when my neighbours took refuge in the church hall when the wall of their flats was blown down they hadn’t moved there, they were their waiting for it to be safe to go back. A “women’s refuge” is a temporary place of safety, not a permanent residence.

Refuge is temporary pending moving on.
Asylum is permanent, having abandoned previous links.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

DocBud – PS – The German government’s latest report on global religious freedom

If I was to openly and publicly preach my Christian faith, I’d be in a prison cell before you can say “I thought this was England”. Probably get stabbed in jail by the you-know-whos for my trouble.

Fuck Caesar.

Marius
Marius
1 year ago

But what’s the most accurate term?

How do you describe the sort who turn their own nation into a shithole and then ponce off somewhere else to steal a living?

Moocher? Parasite? Sponger? Deadbeat? Freeloader?

Addolff
Addolff
1 year ago

jgh, on the railway, a ‘refuge’ is a safe place to stand inside a tunnel, on a bridge or at any other location with limited clearance.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
1 year ago

How do you describe the sort who turn their own nation into a shithole and then ponce off somewhere else to steal a living?

Moocher? Parasite? Sponger? Deadbeat? Freeloader?

We do actually have a full & inclusive traditional list of terms. Unfortunately recent “HATE!”* legislation prevents their use.

^Why “hate” I haven’t a clue. The apposite word would be disgust.

Chris Miller
Chris Miller
1 year ago

Rod Liddle has an excellent piece in the Speccie on the ‘Irish question’. Not enough popcorn in the world …

gunker
gunker
1 year ago
Paul, Somerset
Paul, Somerset
1 year ago

Another example of that delicate euphemism ‘cleansing’ being used, when the straightforward word ‘cleaning’ would be more appropriate.

Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago

Sounds like the German usage “reinigung”.

Paul, Somerset
Paul, Somerset
1 year ago

Yes. Reinigung, with all the undertones of ‘purification’; rather than a straightforward ‘Reinemachen’, simply making the streets clean again.

Bnic
Bnic
1 year ago

Funny how they can do something about the tent cities if they really need to, they won’t even clear tents blocking building fire escapes here, but during Covid it was a different story
The latest wheeze is activists going to court on behalf of a tent city in a park arguing that the council isn’t providing enough toilets and electricity to the site so it’s a breach of some rights of some sort

DocBud
DocBud
1 year ago

One way to tell the difference between a genuine asylum seeker and an economic migrant is that asylum seekers don’t go back to their home countries for a holiday.

The number of genuine asylum seekers in the world is very small compared to the number of economic migrants. Over the years western nations have accepted those who were fleeing persecution and could not go home, such as Jews at various stages of history and those escaping from Eastern Europe during the Soviet era. I would argue that in the main, this has generally, though not entirely, been a positive experience. Immigration, both legal and illegal, has been a much more mixed bag, with those who adhere to the cult of Mohammad being a rather clear negative.

Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA
1 year ago

Bongo:

2. You are not entitled to asylum in the UK – you are not a refugee, and you are now a former asylum seeker surely. But what’s the most accurate term?

Invader.

formertory
formertory
1 year ago

@Marius:

How do you describe the sort who turn their own nation into a shithole and then ponce off somewhere else to steal a living?

Moocher? Parasite? Sponger? Deadbeat? Freeloader?

Sorry, but I fear you may have overlooked Civil Servant, Politician, and NHS “manager” – further descriptions of people busily engaged in turning their own country into a shithole and stealing a living.

AndrewWS
AndrewWS
1 year ago

@ What is Sami Kupiszewski, a person (male?) with a Polish name, doing being “an asylum seeker from Turkey”?

Chgarles
Chgarles
1 year ago

@Marius – “How do you describe the sort who turn their own nation into a shithole and then ponce off somewhere else to steal a living?”

Have you any evidence that there is a significant number of such people? There is no shortage of bad government around the world, which in extreme cases makes a nation into what you would cheerfully label “a shothole”, but who are the people fleeing such places? Are they the powerful people who caused the problem or their innocent countrymen who suffer the consequences of policies they have no influence over?

@DocBud – “One way to tell the difference between a genuine asylum seeker and an economic migrant is that asylum seekers don’t go back to their home countries for a holiday.”

Not always. It depends on what they are fleeing. If a gay man flees a country due to its homophobic persecution, then he may well be able to return for a holiday as long as he does not bring his husband and conceals his sexuality for the visit.

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