Veeeerrrrrmmmmmiiiiinnnnnneeeeee!

Clive Lewis announced his bid to lead the Labour Party yesterday, and I admit to two things. The first was knowing he was going to do so. The second is pleasure that he is.

Clive is a member of the Green New Deal Group. He gets what is required. And he has risked the wrath of existing leadership to stick his neck out for it.

Clive had also been willing to work across party lines. Hallelujah!

30 thoughts on “Veeeerrrrrmmmmmiiiiinnnnnneeeeee!”

  1. Not only the above, there is also this from the brown-nosing potato as he tries to keep as many plates spinning as possible:

    “I have to admit that, to my surprise, I find Emily Thornberry entirely on a wavelength with me.”

    I think this is known as an each way betting strategy

  2. BF

    Except I find it difficult to believe that either Emily or Clive will become the next leader. Emily is an arrogant champagne socialist who hates the working class and Clive is a worthless lefty, who idiotically rebelled against Corbyn.

    See where they were on the list of loyalists.

    https://labourlist.org/2016/03/leaked-list-ranks-labour-mps-by-hostility-to-corbyn/

    Rebecca Long Bailey is the corbynite favourite and Keir Starmer that of the remain elite. Lisa nandy is the leave left candidate.

  3. ‘his bid to lead the Labour Party yesterday’

    Or a bid to lead yesterday’s Labour Party.

    Green New Deal – another brilliant strategy to win votes.

  4. I’m enjoying having solar FiT payments that cover off all the cost of my electricity and more. These are subsidised from poorer people than I so it’s almost like robbing them.

    Now if BluLabour can come up with a similar scheme I can take advantage of (without the need for some form of socialist government) I’d be happy to rob the worse off some more.

  5. Thing is, though, is vermine worth it? He’d get £300-odd p.d if he shows up, but to do that he’s got to have a season ticket from Ely – which will cost.

    I suppose as ballast to other income it might work out but as offensive boondoggle sinecures go, it’s not all that, is it?

  6. Ely to Kings Cross 12 months 1st class (Of Course!) £8504, or £10404 to Zones 1-6. HoL has about 15 weeks recess in the year and sits only 4 days a week normally, so the income for a full-timer would be 37*4*300 = £44.4k, less tax (say 20%) = £35.5k, less £8.5k = ~£27k. He wouldn’t starve, but neither would it fund much in the way of entertainment (whatever that might be for him). I suppose if he brown-nosed the right people he could get on boondoggles to Palestine, Syria, etc.

  7. Edward Lud, they pay travel expenses on top of the £305 per day.

    Typically something like 140 sitting days per year, so that’s £42,700.

    But it’s tax-free, so it’s equivalent to £60k taxable salary (and worth even more if you’ve got other income; for a higher rate taxpayer it’s the equivalent of over £70k).

    That’s in the new university professor pay range, so he’d be getting his old salary for even less work.

  8. Bloke in North Dorset

    I thought we were up to the People’s Green New Deal, or was it the Green People’s New Deal. Whichever, but it can’t be lefty policy without being People’s something or other.

  9. Somewhere, on a porcelain throne, in between the straining, a rotund blowhard is wondering which sounds better as a designation

    Lord Murphy, Professor

    or

    Professor, Lord Murphy

  10. Dennis, A Vast Reservior of Toxic Masculinity

    There are few things more satisfying than watching a complete non-entity chasing relevance like a rat in heat.

  11. “I have to admit that, to my surprise, I find Emily Thornberry entirely on a wavelength with me.”

    Well, yes. She’s a pompous, arrogant, out of touch arsehole too.

  12. Clive Lewis always looked like he had some unresolved anger issues to me. Sometimes the chippiness breaks through and he looks a little unhinged. Like the kid that got bullied at school who’s still feeling that pain.

  13. Bloke in Costa Rica

    I can’t see many people voting for Emily Fivebellies, and Lewis is a complete non-entity. The bookies’ favourites right now are Rebecca Long-Bailey (3) and Keir Starmer (3.5). Lewis and Fivebellies are out in no-hoper territory with odds of 19 or 20 and 25-ish respectively. I hope it’s Long-Bailey, because a) she’s as bonkers as Corbyn and b) she has a face like a rat and will remind every male potential Labour voter of that dreadful HR manager they had a run-in with. Starmer looks like he’s been covered in shellac and buffed to a high gloss, but he’s probably the more dangerous of the pair as even though he’s a total bell-end he’s at least superficially sane.

  14. I find Emily Thornberry entirely on a wavelength with me.

    This might serve as a paradigm of ill-mannered self-important pompousness.

    Any halfway normal (well yes, I know: doesn’t apply here) person would claim to be on the same wavelength as some specified other person rather than claim the wavelength for himself as if the other were an interloper graciously tolerated on his personal frequency.

    Good luck to Clive “On Your Knees, Bitch” Lewis who outraged the ever-outrageable Labour lady luminaries, Harriet H, Stella C and Jess P with his espièglerie.

    Given the prevailing view that it’s time that Labour had a woman leader, perhaps Clive should now self-identify as a bitch to give himself a chance.

  15. Call; me a cynic but I’d like to know a little more about Keira-Boy and his career.

    Anyway, fir the mo’ I can enjoy hearing a lawyer, a lawyer!, calling Boris a liar.

  16. We think Labour crashed and burned. You guys in the States better gird you’re loins for more years of Trump. Even dear old Michael Foot would have recognised a US Party suicide note. Scrap private health insurance but make it free for illegal immigrants??

    Wow. Why not just have a campaign slogan that says we hate you yank fuckers and see if you can get not one single teeny weeny vote?

  17. @Mr Yan December 20, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    I could have done same; however I believed it was immoral to do so

    @Edward Lud December 20, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Travel expenses & hotel or a London pad for outside London peers – paid for by taxpayers

    Do any of them ever feel guilty that their £305pd is double the weekly state pension?

  18. @Pcar

    Yeah, being a white male higher rate taxpayer with no prodgony means I’m don’t give a damn about clawing money back in anyway I can.

  19. I’d have thought it would make it easier for him to seek grants etc. or even some nice non-exec directorships or charity boards and so on.
    So not so much the pay for the role as the opportunity to milk the title for cash, access to lobbyists etc.

  20. Mr Yan:
    I’m enjoying having solar FiT payments that cover off all the cost of my electricity and more. These are subsidised from poorer people than I so it’s almost like robbing them.

    Why don’t you run an extension cord into your neighbour’s house. It would be more honest, you subsidy troughing twat.

  21. @ Silverite

    How is it not honest? I’m not doing anything illegal. You can question the morality (like Pcar) but why wouldn’t you take advantage of a stupid government scheme?

    As for the morality, UK Gov gets far more from me than I get in return so I’m comfortable with the arrangement. If it annoys random people on the Intertubes then better still.

  22. @Mr Yan

    why wouldn’t you take advantage of a stupid government scheme?

    @Silverite is correct

    Honesty, morals, not “stealing” from others, being a cad and the type of person we free market proponents dislike

    Your actions are the same as benefit abuse, NHS fraud and Labour’s theft by tax

  23. Lewism or Lewisnomincs don’t sound right. Nandyism and Nandynomics sound like a joke. Long-Baileyism and Long-Baileynomics are non-starters. Starmerism or Starmernomics? Maybe. Thornberrynomics could work. Or is he hoping the next leader will go with Murphynomics or Murphyism.

  24. Your actions are the same as benefit abuse, NHS fraud and Labour’s theft by tax

    Not really. The first two are actually illegal (the third, and all other taxes, should be!). It’s no different to a freelance contractor paying themself in dividends rather than salary to (quite legally) avoid employers national insurance (aka job tax).

    I think of feed-in tariffs more as a free lesson to politicians in second order effects and not pissing our money up the wall. Not that they’re paying any attention.

  25. BiW

    “It’s no different to a freelance contractor paying themself in dividends rather than salary to (quite legally) avoid employers national insurance (aka job tax).”

    Agreed.

    Or most stuff really. Morally, the Feed in tariff is no different to an ISA or pension relief, or a myriad of other tax reliefs or incentives. Whatever my personal view on all the Green crap, the Government is trying to steer behaviour. If personal views on reliefs came into it, I might have to declare myself (and everyone else) as immoral, in doing nothing more than claiming the ordinary single person’s allowance, if I believed that flat taxes across the board were the simplest and fairest form of income tax? Perhaps stretching it a tad?

    There is nothing to stop any of us individually not claiming a legal benefit or relief, and I’m sure many of us perhaps do that to some small extent on our own pet issues, but I wouldn’t want to criticise others for not following my own particular whims?

  26. @PF

    Agree, but: all here – except our host – agree Green/Renewables are a fraudulent scam robbing the poor to enrich the fraudsters.

    FiT etc are not the same as ISAs etc as the poor could not “save” with them, instead their costs increased.

    As I said, I could have paid cash for £20k of solar when FiT scam started, I decided it was morally wrong.

    I also forecast the double glazing, Kirby etc fraudsters would be raking it in, more so when Gov’t decreed only “approved” (aka x2-3 real price) installers for FiT

    And so it became: Barclays hit for lending for scam solar

    Gov’t offers stolen money in pub @50p/£ sums up FiT and green fraud.

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